If Bush, like Roosevelt, sent the country into full-on wartime production, building planes, HUMMWV’s, tanks, bombs and bullets, and used that to create, as Kerry says, “10 million jobs” (even though there are less than 9 million unemployed), would you be supportive?

Also, where’s your 9 million number from?

The only reason FDR was able to ‘create’ the large number of jobs was because of WWII. His socialist jobs programs weren’t going to cut the mustard.

You can only build so many roads and dams.

Without WWII, FDR would have had a difficult election in 1944.

And a thank you to Abou for the common knowledge.

Electricity was being produced and lined to many outlying areas, creating demand for new electrical devices like “The Refrigerator”.

And what else was going on during that time period?

The Lend/Lease program with the UK.

Liberty Ships, automobiles, food, planes, firearms and ammunition, etc.

The ‘war production’ was just starting up.

I doubt that FDR would have been able to cover the original 5.7 million jobs by 1940 if we hadn’t had to send our men over to save Europe from itself. Again.

A couple little bits of trivia…

During WWII, the Rockola Jukebox Company doubled their employee numbers and shifted production from jukeboxes to firearms (aka ‘machine guns’ or ‘assault rifles’). They made a hundred thousand or so M1 Carbines for the US Army and Marine Corps.

During that period, the term ‘RPM’ meant ‘Rounds Per Minute’ (the carbine fired at a rate of 450RPM).

In 1942, it cost Rockola $18 to build a M1 Carbine. IF you can find one for sale now, you should expect to pay at least $800.

By the end of 1939 we had built 3000 planes, 500 tanks and 100 ‘Liberty’ type ships under the ‘Cash and Carry’ program.

Other than 1 or 2 Carriers, I don’t remember how many warships we had built, but I do know that in mid 1940 we sold a number of Destroyer type ships to the UK and needed updated replacements.

The Brits were getting ready to fight Rommel in N. Africa.

In 1940, under something called the Neighbors House on Fire’ tab, we built another 6000 planes, 800 tanks, 300 Liberty’s and another Carrier.

It would later become the ‘Lend/Lease Program’.

What could be considered ‘War Production’ started shortly after Hitler invaded CZ in the first quarter of 39. The War Dept had predicted most of what followed, and luckily Roosevelt had listend to most of what they said.

So I guess we are at an impasse. The link you posted is a no-go (most from their site end up that way) and I can’t find any info from 33-38 either.

Since it is generally accepted that 1932 was the worst year of the depression, I’ll conceed part of the victory. The gov’t job programs DID up the employment numbers, but I still do not think that they would have done the whole job.

I just think Bush deserves a little more than what he is getting for the jobs that have een created.

My brothers company is hiring people like crazy. Real “living wage” jobs building, shipping, sales and delivery of luxury furniture.

Not exactly the first thing people think of buying if they think they’ll be out of work soon.

Washington’s unemployment numbers are looking to go below their 1999 numbers. Still above the nat’l average, but good enough for me.