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		<title>By: Devind77</title>
		<link>http://www.speedkill.org/2008/04/27/1972/#comment-467467</link>
		<dc:creator>Devind77</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 00:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read that whole discussion, Jeff, and I have to hand it to you, you managed to handle that guy pretty well.  Whenever I run into someone like that, I just freeze up at the onslaught of stupidity.  I've been wondering for a while now why the creationists are so feverish and panicked in their debating style, and as I was reading Steve's many responses and how they became more and more vague and vicious I began to think it's because they are afraid.  

I mean afraid of everything.  Of their god, of their government, of the possibility that they might be wrong, of everything.  It really kind of made me feel sorry for the guy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read that whole discussion, Jeff, and I have to hand it to you, you managed to handle that guy pretty well.  Whenever I run into someone like that, I just freeze up at the onslaught of stupidity.  I&#8217;ve been wondering for a while now why the creationists are so feverish and panicked in their debating style, and as I was reading Steve&#8217;s many responses and how they became more and more vague and vicious I began to think it&#8217;s because they are afraid.  </p>
<p>I mean afraid of everything.  Of their god, of their government, of the possibility that they might be wrong, of everything.  It really kind of made me feel sorry for the guy.</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca Schmitz</title>
		<link>http://www.speedkill.org/2008/04/27/1972/#comment-467086</link>
		<dc:creator>Rebecca Schmitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 23:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;it has been the environmental wacko nut liberals that has blocked drilling in ANWAR&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I don't why, but it still amazes me that certain Christians only love those brothers who vote like thine selves.  

And when do we get to stop hearing every fundamentalist copycat Rick Warren?  Everyone has a "purpose" (gag); it's whatever they want to accomplish on a specific day in their lives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>it has been the environmental wacko nut liberals that has blocked drilling in ANWAR</p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t why, but it still amazes me that certain Christians only love those brothers who vote like thine selves.  </p>
<p>And when do we get to stop hearing every fundamentalist copycat Rick Warren?  Everyone has a &#8220;purpose&#8221; (gag); it&#8217;s whatever they want to accomplish on a specific day in their lives.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Stevens</title>
		<link>http://www.speedkill.org/2008/04/27/1972/#comment-467052</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Stevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 20:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's funny when *sshats like that call you "close minded." To them, "closeminded" means you refuse to have faith that everything they say is the gospel truth, despite the lack of reason or evidence behind their views.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s funny when *sshats like that call you &#8220;close minded.&#8221; To them, &#8220;closeminded&#8221; means you refuse to have faith that everything they say is the gospel truth, despite the lack of reason or evidence behind their views.</p>
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		<title>By: Colby Natale</title>
		<link>http://www.speedkill.org/2008/04/27/1972/#comment-467051</link>
		<dc:creator>Colby Natale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 19:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice to know that some poor 6th grader has to put up with that guy every week in Nebraska...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice to know that some poor 6th grader has to put up with that guy every week in Nebraska&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Colby Natale</title>
		<link>http://www.speedkill.org/2008/04/27/1972/#comment-467050</link>
		<dc:creator>Colby Natale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 19:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nah nah nah nah
nah nah nah nah
hey hey hey
goodbye...


Nice work Jeff!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nah nah nah nah<br />
nah nah nah nah<br />
hey hey hey<br />
goodbye&#8230;</p>
<p>Nice work Jeff!</p>
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		<title>By: Beyond Words &#171; Piece Of Mind</title>
		<link>http://www.speedkill.org/2008/04/27/1972/#comment-467046</link>
		<dc:creator>Beyond Words &#171; Piece Of Mind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 18:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 9, 2008   Jeff at Speedkill encountered a creationist, and demolished him. No surprise, I guess, but the exchange is one of the best I have read in many [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 9, 2008   Jeff at Speedkill encountered a creationist, and demolished him. No surprise, I guess, but the exchange is one of the best I have read in many [...]</p>
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		<title>By: steve davenport</title>
		<link>http://www.speedkill.org/2008/04/27/1972/#comment-467039</link>
		<dc:creator>steve davenport</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 12:35:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your response is always " nope, same old creationist blah , blah, blah." 

Just proves Stein's point totally. 

No sense wasting any more time on this liberal blog. The closemindedness is appalling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your response is always &#8221; nope, same old creationist blah , blah, blah.&#8221; </p>
<p>Just proves Stein&#8217;s point totally. </p>
<p>No sense wasting any more time on this liberal blog. The closemindedness is appalling.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://www.speedkill.org/2008/04/27/1972/#comment-466936</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 00:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Seems to me like abiogenesis is just old spontaneous generation repackaged.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I'm not surprised. There's a reason I keep calling you uninformed. No one believes maggots spontaneously form from rotting meat. What I'm talking about is a series of chemical reactions over a long period of time, given the right conditions.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Of course, something tells me that even if God were to come to your living room and call something out of nothing, you would still hold to the view that relinquishes man from his accountablility to God.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I suppose that's the beauty of being a fundamentalist: you don't actually have to know someone to judge them. You have your neat little ideology and you have to make people fit into it. You have to ignore the fact that I could believe in a judgmental God while still believing in evolution and that I've known Christians who were far more "sinful" than I am. I mean, accountability? All I'd have to do is ask for forgiveness. How hard is that?

&lt;blockquote&gt;I hope you find this article helpful as we continue the discussion.

http://www.answersingenesis.org/tj/v18/i2/abiogenesis.asp&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Nope, same old creationist attempts to discredit Miller-Urey. Never mind that the experiment has been replicated under a wide variety of atmospheric conditions and the early Earth's atmosphere likely had very little oxygen. Modern theories of abiogenesis go far beyond Miller-Urey. You'll have to do much better than that to discredit the whole of it.

And of course, I've said before, we don't know how all of this happened. The idea that a god did it has no evidence and no way to confirm or deny it. I can live with "I don't know," but I'm certainly not going to give any credence to ideas that have as many problems and gaps as an intelligent designer. 

&lt;blockquote&gt;As far as economics are concerned, there are only four percent of mortgages currently in default (those facts are from Neil Cavuto, Fox News Business). The media has stirred the hype on this because they are totally committed to bringing down George Bush and the Republicans.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Um, not many are blaming Bush for the housing market, so far as I can tell. Besides, Republicans are doing a fine job bringing themselves down. Plus, the housing collapse isn't simply about how many mortgages defaulted. It's brought to the fore a lot of issues in our financial markets. Perception is a big factor in our economy. I'm not surprised at your comment, though. The world is much simpler when you can just blame a problem on environmentalists, atheists, liberals, gays, etc (and I'm only two of those, by the way), rather than grappling with the complexities of our society.

&lt;blockquote&gt;As far as the energy policy goes, it has been the environmental wacko nut liberals that has blocked drilling in ANWAR, off the continental shelf in the Atlantic, as well as other places. If they began building another refinery, it would take ten years to get it online and running because of environmental lawsuits brought by dissatisfied old marxists who have found a home in the environmental movement.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The Energy Department &lt;a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4542853/" rel="nofollow"&gt;stated&lt;/a&gt; that ANWR would affect oil prices by less than a dollar a barrel and we'd only depending on foreign oil 4% less than we are now. That's your economic savior? I think not. Our economy is in much more trouble than we can fix by simply drilling in more places.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Seems to me like abiogenesis is just old spontaneous generation repackaged.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m not surprised. There&#8217;s a reason I keep calling you uninformed. No one believes maggots spontaneously form from rotting meat. What I&#8217;m talking about is a series of chemical reactions over a long period of time, given the right conditions.</p>
<blockquote><p>Of course, something tells me that even if God were to come to your living room and call something out of nothing, you would still hold to the view that relinquishes man from his accountablility to God.</p></blockquote>
<p>I suppose that&#8217;s the beauty of being a fundamentalist: you don&#8217;t actually have to know someone to judge them. You have your neat little ideology and you have to make people fit into it. You have to ignore the fact that I could believe in a judgmental God while still believing in evolution and that I&#8217;ve known Christians who were far more &#8220;sinful&#8221; than I am. I mean, accountability? All I&#8217;d have to do is ask for forgiveness. How hard is that?</p>
<blockquote><p>I hope you find this article helpful as we continue the discussion.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.answersingenesis.org/tj/v18/i2/abiogenesis.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.answersingenesis.org/tj/v18/i2/abiogenesis.asp</a></p></blockquote>
<p>Nope, same old creationist attempts to discredit Miller-Urey. Never mind that the experiment has been replicated under a wide variety of atmospheric conditions and the early Earth&#8217;s atmosphere likely had very little oxygen. Modern theories of abiogenesis go far beyond Miller-Urey. You&#8217;ll have to do much better than that to discredit the whole of it.</p>
<p>And of course, I&#8217;ve said before, we don&#8217;t know how all of this happened. The idea that a god did it has no evidence and no way to confirm or deny it. I can live with &#8220;I don&#8217;t know,&#8221; but I&#8217;m certainly not going to give any credence to ideas that have as many problems and gaps as an intelligent designer. </p>
<blockquote><p>As far as economics are concerned, there are only four percent of mortgages currently in default (those facts are from Neil Cavuto, Fox News Business). The media has stirred the hype on this because they are totally committed to bringing down George Bush and the Republicans.</p></blockquote>
<p>Um, not many are blaming Bush for the housing market, so far as I can tell. Besides, Republicans are doing a fine job bringing themselves down. Plus, the housing collapse isn&#8217;t simply about how many mortgages defaulted. It&#8217;s brought to the fore a lot of issues in our financial markets. Perception is a big factor in our economy. I&#8217;m not surprised at your comment, though. The world is much simpler when you can just blame a problem on environmentalists, atheists, liberals, gays, etc (and I&#8217;m only two of those, by the way), rather than grappling with the complexities of our society.</p>
<blockquote><p>As far as the energy policy goes, it has been the environmental wacko nut liberals that has blocked drilling in ANWAR, off the continental shelf in the Atlantic, as well as other places. If they began building another refinery, it would take ten years to get it online and running because of environmental lawsuits brought by dissatisfied old marxists who have found a home in the environmental movement.</p></blockquote>
<p>The Energy Department <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4542853/" rel="nofollow">stated</a> that ANWR would affect oil prices by less than a dollar a barrel and we&#8217;d only depending on foreign oil 4% less than we are now. That&#8217;s your economic savior? I think not. Our economy is in much more trouble than we can fix by simply drilling in more places.</p>
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		<title>By: steve davenport</title>
		<link>http://www.speedkill.org/2008/04/27/1972/#comment-466930</link>
		<dc:creator>steve davenport</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 20:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems to me like abiogenesis is just old spontaneous generation repackaged. Of course, something tells me that even if God were to come to your living room and call something out of nothing, you would still hold to the view that relinquishes man from his accountablility to God.
 
I hope you find this article helpful as we continue the discussion.  

http://www.answersingenesis.org/tj/v18/i2/abiogenesis.asp

As far as economics are concerned, there are only four percent of mortgages currently in default (those facts are from Neil Cavuto, Fox News Business). The media has stirred the hype on this because they are totally committed to bringing down George Bush and the Republicans. As far as the energy policy goes, it has been the environmental wacko nut liberals that has blocked drilling in ANWAR, off the continental shelf in the Atlantic, as well as other places. If they began building another refinery, it would take ten years to get it online and running because of environmental lawsuits brought by dissatisfied old marxists who have found a home in the environmental movement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems to me like abiogenesis is just old spontaneous generation repackaged. Of course, something tells me that even if God were to come to your living room and call something out of nothing, you would still hold to the view that relinquishes man from his accountablility to God.</p>
<p>I hope you find this article helpful as we continue the discussion.  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.answersingenesis.org/tj/v18/i2/abiogenesis.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.answersingenesis.org/tj/v18/i2/abiogenesis.asp</a></p>
<p>As far as economics are concerned, there are only four percent of mortgages currently in default (those facts are from Neil Cavuto, Fox News Business). The media has stirred the hype on this because they are totally committed to bringing down George Bush and the Republicans. As far as the energy policy goes, it has been the environmental wacko nut liberals that has blocked drilling in ANWAR, off the continental shelf in the Atlantic, as well as other places. If they began building another refinery, it would take ten years to get it online and running because of environmental lawsuits brought by dissatisfied old marxists who have found a home in the environmental movement.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Stevens</title>
		<link>http://www.speedkill.org/2008/04/27/1972/#comment-466925</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Stevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 16:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice smackdown!

Isn't one of the theories out there about rapid evolution, thanks to "island biospheres"? I read "Beak of the Finch" and "Song of the Dodo" years ago, but I can't remember the details. Something like, evolution occurs rapidly on small, enclosed distinct ecosystems (like an island), and when rapid enviromental disaster occurs (a falling meteorite?), those species that have acclimated to the new conditions, thanks to resemblance to their specific niche, proliferate suddenly.

As I recall, in "Beak of the Finch," scientist saw new species of finch evolve on the Galapagos Islands in their lifetimes. And the conditions on the different islands caused species to emerge that were suited to the ecosystems of the islands they inhabited.

Cool stuff. Great books for anyone actually interested in evolution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice smackdown!</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t one of the theories out there about rapid evolution, thanks to &#8220;island biospheres&#8221;? I read &#8220;Beak of the Finch&#8221; and &#8220;Song of the Dodo&#8221; years ago, but I can&#8217;t remember the details. Something like, evolution occurs rapidly on small, enclosed distinct ecosystems (like an island), and when rapid enviromental disaster occurs (a falling meteorite?), those species that have acclimated to the new conditions, thanks to resemblance to their specific niche, proliferate suddenly.</p>
<p>As I recall, in &#8220;Beak of the Finch,&#8221; scientist saw new species of finch evolve on the Galapagos Islands in their lifetimes. And the conditions on the different islands caused species to emerge that were suited to the ecosystems of the islands they inhabited.</p>
<p>Cool stuff. Great books for anyone actually interested in evolution.</p>
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